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Data refreshed 24 Sep 2026 · Compiled by David Ispiryan · Phidias Propfirm facts verified by BrokerCatalogue research desk (from the firm's own site) on 2026-09-24 · The5ers facts verified by BrokerCatalogue research desk (from the firm's own site) on 2026-09-24
AI visibility score 4.6 / 100 · AI visibility rank #19 · Founded 2023
Phidias Propfirm is a proprietary trading firm based in Gibraltar, Gibraltar, founded in 2023. It offers one-step evaluations on futures. Funded accounts go up to $150,000 (up to 15 accounts). The profit…
Open the Phidias Propfirm profileAI visibility score 37.9 / 100 · AI visibility rank #3 · Founded 2016
The5ers is a proprietary trading firm based in London, United Kingdom, founded in 2016. It offers one-step, two-step, three-step, instant-funding evaluations on forex, indices, commodities, crypto, futures. Funded accounts go up to…
Open the The5ers profilePhidias Propfirm (Gibraltar, Gibraltar, founded 2023) scores 4.6 / 100 on the Q3 2026 AI Visibility Index (rank #19 of 76 prop firms), named in 6% of AI answers, runs One-step evaluations, funds accounts up to $150,000 (up to 15 accounts), pays a 80% (Premium 75% rising to 100% from 5th payout) profit split and offers DeepCharts, NinjaTrader, Rithmic, TradingView, Tradovate. The5ers (London, United Kingdom, founded 2016) scores 37.9 / 100 on the Q3 2026 AI Visibility Index (rank #3 of 76 prop firms), named in 49% of AI answers, runs Instant funding, One-step, Three-step, Two-step evaluations, funds accounts up to $100,000 (scaling to $4,000,000), pays a 80% (up to 100%) profit split and offers MT5.
Scored on 9 measurable dimensions where both prop firms have verified data. Dimensions missing for either side are excluded rather than guessed. This is a data summary, not a recommendation.
| Criteria | Phidias Propfirm | The5ers |
|---|---|---|
| AI visibility score | 4.6 / 100 | 37.9 / 100 |
| AI visibility rank | #19 | #3 |
| Named in AI answers | 6% | 49% |
| AI sentiment (0–100) | 4 | 44 |
| Founded | 2023 | 2016 |
| Headquarters | Gibraltar, Gibraltar | London, United Kingdom |
| Evaluation models | One-step | Instant funding, One-step, Three-step, Two-step |
| Asset classes | Futures | Commodities, Crypto, Forex, Futures, Indices |
| Platforms | DeepCharts, NinjaTrader, Rithmic, TradingView, Tradovate | MT5 |
| Maximum allocation | $150,000 (up to 15 accounts) | $100,000 (scaling to $4,000,000) |
| Profit split | 80% (Premium 75% rising to 100% from 5th payout) | 80% (up to 100%) |
| Challenge fee from | $55 (25K Express to Live one-time with code; $277 list) | $19 (High Stakes $2.5k) |
| Account sizes | $25k, $50k, $100k, $150k | $2.5k, $5k, $10k, $25k, $50k, $100k |
| Payout frequency | daily, uncapped (Live); 90% processed under 30 minutes | monthly (on request; scaling at each 10% target) |
| Daily drawdown limit | none | 5% (High Stakes); 3% (Hyper Growth) |
| Maximum drawdown | static $500 on 25K Express to Live (2%); end-of-day on Fundamental and Premium | 10% (High Stakes); 6% (Hyper Growth) |
| Minimum trading days | none (Express to Live) | 3 profitable days |
| Time limit | none | none (account expires after 30 days without activity) |
| News trading | Yes | Restricted |
| Weekend holding | Restricted | Yes |
| Broker backing | Dorman Trading (registered FCM clears LIVE accounts) | Not verified |
| Status | active | active |
Highlighted cells mark the stronger value where a direction is objectively better (e.g. more licences, lower fees). "Not verified" means the field is not yet in our catalogue for that prop firm — we never fill gaps with estimates.
| Engine | Phidias Propfirm | The5ers |
|---|---|---|
| ChatGPT | 0 | 53.2 |
| Perplexity | 0 | 49.1 |
| Gemini | 1.8 | 44.4 |
| Claude | 7.3 | 28.5 |
| Google AI Mode | 4.6 | 50.1 |
| Google AI Overview | 4.8 | 57.8 |
| Google top-10 | 13.8 | 0 |
Scores 0–100 from the Pipswire AI Visibility Index, Q3 2026. Higher means the engine names the firm more often and more favourably.
The5ers scores higher on the Q3 2026 Pipswire AI Visibility Index (4.6 / 100 vs 37.9 / 100), which measures how often ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini, Claude and Google name a firm when traders ask which prop firm to use.
Phidias Propfirm pays 80% (Premium 75% rising to 100% from 5th payout); The5ers pays 80% (up to 100%) (as published on each firm's site when we last checked).
Entry-level challenge fees start at $55 (25K Express to Live one-time with code; $277 list) at Phidias Propfirm and $19 (High Stakes $2.5k) at The5ers. Fees change often and discounts are common, so treat these as the floor.
Phidias Propfirm: DeepCharts, NinjaTrader, Rithmic, TradingView, Tradovate. The5ers: MT5.
Phidias Propfirm: maximum drawdown static $500 on 25K Express to Live (2%); end-of-day on Fundamental and Premium, daily none. The5ers: maximum drawdown 10% (High Stakes); 6% (Hyper Growth), daily 5% (High Stakes); 3% (Hyper Growth).
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